Should You Use Braid for Surf Fishing?
A question for the ages, “should you use braid for surf fishing?”. Given the multitude of different styles of surf fishing, there really isn’t any definitive yes or no for the all-encompassing term, “surf fishing”. Rather, there are certain instances and styles in which you might benefit from using braid for surf fishing, and others where you should certainly avoid it. If you need a refresher on the difference between braid vs mono, click the link. See the latest fishing report and forecast at the bottom of this page.
Should you use braid for surf fishing? Let’s break this down section by section:
- Braid with a Carolina Rig or Similar Rigs?
- Using Braid with Lures?
- Braid for Shark Fishing?
Recommended Braid:
Recommended Mono:
When Should You Use Braid with a Carolina Rig or Similar Rig?
Answer: Almost never. Remember, this is 100% my opinion. Some anglers love using braid for their Carolina rigs and that’s fine. But, here are my thoughts:
The bottom line here is that braid tends to twist, tangle and accumulate knots very quickly when a swivel is involved. Especially when that swivel is attached to mono or fluoro (like it would be with a Carolina rig). Using a swivel to a leader for a lure is a little different and can be beneficial without many tangles due to the lack of weight in between the connection and constant tension.
I’ve fished with a few anglers who used braid for their mainline while using a Carolina rig and almost every time, the result is line twists and tangles that take time away from fishing. I can’t suggest any proper time or instance to use braid with a Carolina rig. I say “almost never” because everyone has their own opinions and preferences and if it works for someone, then it works.
Mono is a much better option for a Carolina rig because even when your line does twist, tangle, or get stuck in a knot, more often than not, it’s very minor. With twists and tangles, usually pulling the line taught fixes it all. With a knot, usually, it’s one or two knots and then everything unfolds itself due to the memory of mono.
When Should You Use Braid with Lures?
Answer: Sometimes
Using braid for surf fishing with lures can be beneficial. Braid usually allows you to cast farther so if you’re looking to get a lure into a deep, far hole, braid could help. Also, it allows you to fit more line on the spool, still while keeping a heavier pound-test than mono. If you’re fishing kelpy areas, braid’s minimal stretch and thin diameter might aid in setting the hook through the vegetation as well as cutting through that vegetation once the fish is already on.
In many situations though, mono is just fine for fishing with lures. If you aren’t fishing kelpy or reefy areas, or you don’t need a couple extra feet of distance, mono will do the job just fine. Another benefit to mono is its price. You can go through a few spools of mono if not more before you exceed the price of braid. If you think your braid is getting a little old and tattered, you might be a little more hesitant to switch it out due to its price. With mono, you can feel pretty good about changing your line as soon as it shows any signs of wear. This helps a lot when throwing expensive lures. You’ll be sure your line is up for the challenge if you get snagged or hook into something big.
Additionally, the lack of stretch that braid has can help with getting your lures unstuck from barnacle-covered rocks and similar structure. Sometimes if you try to apply quick pressure to dislodge a lure, mono allows for too much stretch and it doesn’t dislodge the lure as braid would. Obviously, this has nothing to do with the actual act of catching fish, but it’s one thing that I’ve noticed.
Should You Use Braid for Sharking?
Answer: Yes but with mono too… and wire
The main reason you’d want to use braid for sharking is the extra line capacity. These things can go on some serious runs. Especially when you start hooking into big soupfin sharks, big bat ray, and whatever else you might get lucky with… maybe a world record yellowtail. Bottom line, you’ll need a good amount of line for land-based shark fishing and braid provides that ability. The other thing braid does is allow for better hook sets with long lengths of line. Whether you’re using circle hooks, J-hooks, or whatever else, the hook (one way or another) will require good tension to be set properly. Braid’s lack of stretch allows for that.
I fill about 2/3 to 3/4 of my spool with braid and then I fill the rest with mono and finish with a wire leader. The wire is used for obvious reasons (teeth). But, the mono is used for abrasion resistance. Mono is said to have much better abrasion resistance and it makes sense given that it’s thicker.
Below, you’ll find my exact setup for land-based shark fishing. Click the following link to see an in-depth explanation of why I use every piece of gear and tackle that I use.
- Rod: Fiblink Moonsniper (12 or 13 feet)
- Reel: Penn Battle 6000 or 8000 (II or III)
- Mainline: 50-pound braid
- Top shot: 100-pound nylon coated mono
- Shark Rig: (Buy Here)
- Hooks: 7/0 Circles
- Swivel: 3-Way Barrel Swivel
- Crimps: AFW #6 Crimps
- Weight: 8-ounce pyramid or 6-ounce sputnik
Surf Fishing Report and Forecast
The water temp has fully recovered and we’re back up into the 67-70 degree range. San Diego never experienced any sort of drop in productivity with that significant drop. In fact, the bite picked up throughout the dip as well as in the recovery. I hear Orange County, LA County and Ventura have had mixed bites.
As far as peak season goes, we’re in it. The bite right now is the best it’s been all summer long. I’d say it came a little late and lesser in comparison to seasons past, but it’s here and it’s time to make the most of it. Big corbina are still biting, big spotfin are on the prowl, soupfin and leopard sharks are definitely biting and overall, quality fish haven’t been tough to come by.
Look for the surf height to get a little rougher in the week ahead as Tuesday through Saturday are forecasted to be pretty rough with Wednesday and Thursday being the worst of the span. The best days for fishing should be Monday, Tuesday, Saturday, and Sunday.
Next Sunday is the beginning of the last predicted grunion run for 2021. If you haven’t already seen the grunion run, I’d take advantage of it and mark it on your calendar.
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Thanks fo your insights Nick. I love surf fishing w sand crabs w braid for the sensitivity, in addition to the reasons you mention… but only w a spinning reel. We fish mostly w hand tied dropper rigs, which avoids the line twist issue you mentioned. Those of us in our group who surf fish w bait casting reels fish w mono, since backlashes w braid are often catastrophic. Thanks for the tips!
There it is! Haha and that’s why ya never say never. If something works for you, no reason to change itS love the reasoning!
Good points for mono and braided lines. I guess in the end it’s personal preference. Tight lines.
Personal preference for just about everything fishing 100%
Hi Nick,
I tried braid fishing line but it did not work for me compared to mono. It’s strong but too light for surf fishing especially on windy days. My spinning reels are back with mono and one with only flouro.
Trial and error and 1st hand experiences are some of the best ways to learn.
Thanks for the article Nick, I know about that extra line capacity by using braid line for Sharking for those serious runs, that’s your insurance…Right
So 2 more days I’m heading up to Morro Bay for some surf fishing for a couple days and relaxation and then up to Monterey to do the same… I’ve always wanted to do this, I get to mark this one off my bucket list…
The one thing I learned in life is to keep your expectations low and your acceptance High cuz we know how fishing can go..lol
So have a peaceful week my friend and stay cool..✌
Thanks for the comment, Richard. Have fun and go catch some fun times!
THANKS
Valuable and worthwhile info. Nick! Thanks for putting this out there for us all. (I generally stick w/mono because it is cheaper and less complicated.
the natural follow-up to this article would seem to be one about loading your line onto you spool. I fished for years before I learned the right method. Now I rarely have a problem when casting new mono line. Perhaps novice, or even journeyman, would appreciate a tutorial on the “best methods” for loading line?
Hey bob, I’ve actually got a video on how I fill up my spools. Super easy and an at-home method anyone could use: https://youtu.be/H0Kt_6GAKVE
Nick, You must have made that video in the winter…no tan!
I do soak my spool after winding…in luke warm water for five minutes. Since I began doing that I’ve never had a birds nest on a newly spooled line.
thanks for linking your video!
No problem! And yes hahah it was a de months ago😂
Nick, what about using a top shot for the Carolina rig. Braid to mono for the top shot and then using flourocarbon for the leader?
Hmm well at the end of the day it really does come down to personal preference.
I’m assuming your reading would be because you can still fit more like on the spool and you like the sensitivity of braid? At that point, I might just go with braid for mainline to fluoro for leader. I think adding the topshot might just over complicate it. What would you’re reading be for adding the top shot? I only use that for sharks because of their skin and potentially rubbing on reef if I’m near reef.